Thu 18 Oct 2007
Climate Audit comments on Al Gore. Have we come to a point where people can’t make mistakes?
Posted by dinosaur under WarmingComments Off
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Having read the judgement now in full (thanks to TonyN’s link), I am now disappointed. The only changes intoduced as a result of the judgement are fairly minor changes to the Guidence Notes which now must acomply the film and which must explicit mention the ‘errors’ within the film. As a regular vsitor to this blog I’m also disppointed in the following content from the judgement.
“The Film advances four main scientific hypotheses, each of which is very well supported by research published in respected, peer-reviewed journals and accords with the latest conclusions of the IPCC:
(1) global average temperatures have been rising significantly over the past half century and are likely to continue to rise (â€climate changeâ€);
(2) climate change is mainly attributable to man-made emissions of carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide (â€greenhouse gasesâ€);
(3) climate change will, if unchecked, have significant adverse effects on the world and its populations; and
(4) there are measures which individuals and governments can take which will help to reduce climate change or mitigate its effects.â€
These propositions, Mr Chamberlain submits (and I accept), are supported by a vast quantity of research published in peer-reviewed journals worldwide and by the great majority of the world’s climate scientists.â€
I like many who visit this blog would disagree with all the four points above and in particular the refence to scientific consensus (’great majority’) and the claim that ‘the science is settled’. As I’m learning more and more each day as Steve M, Anthony Watts and MrPete continu eto audit the so called ‘peer reviewed’ work, the science is far from being settled.
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GORE said nations. There was ONE country.
GORE said they HAD EVACUATED. They had asked NZ to Prepare for evacuation ( ask yourself why?)
JohnV you would not speak so imprecisely. Don’t countenance this.
let me draw a distinction. a while back Kristen posted a botched chart. ELI descended on her mistake
( you can see the fight on CA somewhere). I looked at the chart and asked her to correct her mistake.
Dr. Curry did the same thing. Guess what? the 15 year old corrected her mistake.
Will Gore correct his mistake?
My sense is we have come to this point where people cant make mistakes.
That bothers me deeply. because discovery involves making mistakes.
Kristin screwed up. She fixed her mistake. Gore screwed up. Just fix the
mistake. If he were the Pope I’d get the resistence.
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I can’t believe that RealClimate is still hanging onto the Kilimanjaro as evidence of global warming thing. Despite papers and substantial evidence to the contrary, they are petulantly still claiming the contrary evidence is not proof of anything, and even it it was the mountain is still illustrative of what they just know is happening elsewhere. The massive arrogance and intellectual dishonesty in that alone should be enough to discredit anything else they have to say about global warming. That reeks of the same “fake but accurate†meme we’ve seen elsewhere.
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From my engineering coursework in heat transfer, it seems incredible to me that the RC guys still defend the 20ft sea level rise due to ice melt from Greenland. Just off the top of my head, even using assumptions very favorable to heat transfer and thus melting, given the sheer mass of ice in place it would be far into the future (1000 years + in my guesstimate) before there was any appreciable rise in sea level. If humanity is unable to adapt to a few feet of sea level rise over a 1000 years, we deserve our fate.
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