Wed 30 May 2007
Real Torture unlike what MSM’s whine about, ie having someone spit on the bible, or making them wear underwear.
Posted by dinosaur under Corruption , Jihadists , MSM's[10] Comments
From the al Qaeda torture manual published at The Smoking Gun.
The problem with the word “torture” is that it has been so artfully corrupted by some commentators that we now find ourselves at a loss to describe the kinds of activities that the al-Qaeda interrogation manual graphically recommends. Now that the term “torture” has been put in one-to-one correspondence with such admittedly unpleasant activities as punching, sleep deprivation, a handkerchief pulled over one’s face and loaded with water, searches by women upon sensitive Islamic men or the disrespectful handling of Korans — what on earth do we call gouging people’s eyes out?Answer: we call it nothing. My fearless prediction is that not a single human rights organization will seriously take the matter up. There will be no demonstrations against these barbaric practices, often inflicted upon Muslims by other Muslims, in any of the capitals of the world. Not a single committee in the United Nations will be convened nor will any functionary in the European Union lose so much as a night’s sleep over it. The word for these activities — whatever we choose to call it — will not be spoken.
Indeed, the news that Pfc. Joseph Anzack Jr.’s body showed signs of possible torture has been met by the human rights brigade with…
Nothing.
The continued search for our two other missing soldiers has been met by the human rights brigade with…
Nothing.
This Memorial Day weekend, break the silence and remember our soldiers who suffered and sacrificed. Remember American courage and strength in the face of brutality. Remember the difference between good and evil.
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/007602.htm
Funny how MSM’s who do know what real torture is, don’t say what it’s about but they have an overriding directive, to hate Bush at all cost. Even if the cost is reality.
Would you rather
A) Have someone drill holes in your hand?
B) Have your eye Carved out
C) Have some of the evil that Bush has carried out in Guantanamo carried out on you like being forced to listen to loud music but allowed to keep your eyeball.
Stumble it!
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May 30th, 2007 at 5:08 PM
Actually, USA/CIA hired Scorpions to carry out many interrogations during 2003-4, they are more brutal and thorough than al Qaida.
May 30th, 2007 at 6:38 PM
Feel free to provide at least a link eh.
Like chretien said “a proof is a proof and when you have that a proof is a proof the proof is proven” or something like that.
Did they make people walk around horrifically in just their underwear.
Is this just a wild unsubstantiated claim that they are hoping will become an urban legend.
Because if there was anyproof the stories would have been popping out like sharks teeth I would have thought.
Was there snuff videos like Al qaida does on you tube or wherever?
May 31st, 2007 at 11:29 AM
Scorpion paramilitary groups are well known as being contracted by CIA for torturing US-held enemy combatants. They were originally recruited to foster an insurgency against Hussein in 2002 but became rogue agents.
Many of them are now working in Kurdistan in the PKK terrorist group and are very angry with the Americans first helping PKK but now allowing Turkey army to slaughter them and the rest of the Kurds, an operation which will happen in either June or July.
May 31st, 2007 at 2:26 PM
Well known, hmmm but, still no link.
Not us Americans eh, see thats the problem you let people in the country and they can’t even say “us” Americans. Its ‘the’ Americans like you are from another planet just their to benefit from the country. Now what do you give back?
Anyway the USA can’t fart and keep anything secret. You can’t find a reputable link,
I don’t own enough tin foil to believe you.
May 31st, 2007 at 2:56 PM
My sources are a book by a Pentagon reporter named Thomas Ricks, and my conversations with a Judge Advocate General’s Corps member who is serving in the USA army (JAG for short).
Here are a few articles on the Scorpions paramilitary group recruited by the Americans in Iraq:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorpions_(Iraq)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/02/AR2005080201941.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/02/AR2005080201579.html
Hopefully you approach this information with an open mind. Whether I am an American or not is irrelevant.
June 2nd, 2007 at 8:37 PM
Whether I am an American or not is irrelevant.
Hardly, your bias is out, when you move to a country and feel the right to call it down. Maybe your unpatriotism over beauty contests can spread to other areas?
As with anything like this I’ll remain skeptical till I see a lot of proof.
But the point is we know the other guys like torture and the MSM’s are silent on that talk about a conspiracy. MSM’s can’t tell the truth about Muslims it might make them look bad.
June 4th, 2007 at 11:01 AM
Saying “the other guy tortures too” is no way to claim the moral high ground. This is a criticism I have of the Americans and their boosters.
June 5th, 2007 at 4:32 AM
Look to the best of my knowledge there is no real proof that the Americans have tortured anyone.
The videos of the Jihadist “kill all the kaffur guys” are on “youtube.com”.
If I was to get captured I would rather it be by you yanks, No wait.
This is a criticism I have of the Americans and their boosters.
why do you live in a country you are so critical of? Someone whose an American couldn’t actually say that. funny you will not admit where you are from even though your tone proves you are not an American.
I have a criticism too where people want to move to a country then spend so much effort criticizing it. Stop being a hypocrite and crawl back to the craphole you came from then criticize the country your IP resolves to.
I’d love to know what loser country you moved to the USA from, Syria? Mexico?…..
Do you work for CAIR? Are you paid by Saudis to criticize the United States?
Funny you don’t answer you must have lots to hide.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:20 PM
It matters not where I am from originally. I live in USA, I am allowed to criticise its policies carried out in my name, using my tax dollars and my goodwill.
June 30th, 2007 at 7:07 AM
It matters because it proves you a hypocrite.
If you are like most illegals you don’t pay tax dollars so thats a load.
This is a criticism I have of the Americans and their boosters.
Doesn’t sound like something done in your name to me. Why not go back to the craphole you came from so “the Americans” don’t have to put up with scum like you living in one of the best countries in the world and continuously badmouthing it when it’s so much better than where you were born you haven’t moved back.
Thats my criticism of you.
Your country is so bad you leave it for one thats better then sit around the better one you moved to.